[VPN] IPSEC or PPTP over Nextel Packetstream Gold

[Jac]

Are you stuck with the VPN 3000? My understanding
Nextel is currently testing Nortel Contivity platform
for their mobile VPN offering. Should be available in
Q4. I know they have a wireless IPSec client that may
give you the solution you need.

Maybe you can ask about that and see what they are
offering.

Jac




--- Jim Atherton <jim.atherton at netifice.com> wrote:
> Guess I need to be a little more clear. We use the
> VPN 3000 concentrator. I
> have a laptop. I need to connect to my work
> environment with my laptop over
> some mobile (moving) method. I have the VPN 3000
> software client on my PC
> and Windows 2000 PPTP (which the VPN 3000 also will
> allow as a client). I
> have a Nextel phone. I noticed that Nextel has a
> mobile connectivity
> solution (Packetstream gold) and tried about 6
> months ago to make it work.
> It didn't. There is an old thread somewhere on this
> server that states that
> Motorola's compression hardware used by Nextel did
> not support IPSEC
> compression (this was during the summer of 2002) but
> that it would in late
> 2002. I am trying to find info about whether or not
> it does now (Nextel has
> no clue and noone at Nextel (that I can reach) knows
> anything about the
> technical details of this product Packetstream Gold.
> Also would accept
> alternative cost effective methods (have to approach
> at least 28.8 speeds).
> This is an interesting area that noone seems to have
> a clue about. Since my
> company resells various VPN solutions nationwide, I
> have a feeling at least
> of the potential for this as a product and am a
> little surprised that noone
> has filled this gap.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hakan.palm at generic.se
> [mailto:hakan.palm at generic.se]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:08 PM
> To: jim.atherton at netifice.com
> Cc: vpn at lists.shmoo.com
> Subject: Ang: [VPN] IPSEC or PPTP over Nextel
> Packetstream Gold
> 
> 
> Jim,
> 
> are you trying to connect to a  Cisco VPN 3002
> Hardware
> Client with another client?
> If so, the simple answer is as far as I know, no you
> can not
> terminate the VPN tunnel from another client like
> the Cisco
> VPN Client at the VPN 3002. Simply because the Cisco
> VPN 3002 is a hardware client and not a
> concentrator.
> 
> For a mobile solution the VPN 3000 Concentrator
> range i
> IMNHO really nice to work with and well suited. You
> can
> use the Cisco VPN Client on a laptop running all but
> the
> archaic versions of Windows, Mac OS X, Linux...
> There are
> 3rd party support for older Mac OS, Symbian, Pocket
> PC
> and PalmOS.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Regards,
> /Palm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 	jim.atherton at netifice.com
> 2003-04-15 20:35
> 		
> 	Till:	vpn at lists.shmoo.com @ INTERNET
> 	Kopia:	(Blank: Hakan Palm/Generic)
> 	Ärende:	[VPN] IPSEC or PPTP over Nextel
> Packetstream Gold
> 
> I need a mobile connectivity solution that supports
> either (I would like
> both and prefer IPSEC) IPSEC (Specifically Cisco VPN
> client 3.5.x or later)
> or PPTP (via Windows 2000 native PPTP). I need to
> connect to a Cisco VPN
> 3000 hardware client. I looked into this last year
> and actually tested with
> Nextel and neither worked and the guys at Nextel
> didn't know why. I ran
> across an old mail archive here that said that the
> compression used by
> Nextel Packetstream Gold used a compression
> technology that precluded use of
> IPSEC and that this would change sometime in the
> last quarter of 2002. Does
> anyone have any info about the current or near term
> status of this product?
> My company sells a set of VPN products and services
> and a useful mobile
> wireless VPN solution is needed. Before Richocet
> crashed we did some stuff
> with them. But since then we have had no wireless
> mobile solution. If there
> are any other cost effective mobile wireless
> solutions out there I would
> like to know. Personally, I need connectivity via my
> laptop and a can accept
> speeds of around 28.8 (true speed) but would like
> higher speeds. Lower, more
> expensive solutions are not currently acceptable. I
> cannot for instance use
> some sort of high speed satellite connection due to
> cost.
> 
> Thanks for any info.
> 
> 
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