[VPN] IPSEC or PPTP over Nextel Packetstream Gold

[Jim Atherton]

Guess I need to be a little more clear. We use the VPN 3000 concentrator. I
have a laptop. I need to connect to my work environment with my laptop over
some mobile (moving) method. I have the VPN 3000 software client on my PC
and Windows 2000 PPTP (which the VPN 3000 also will allow as a client). I
have a Nextel phone. I noticed that Nextel has a mobile connectivity
solution (Packetstream gold) and tried about 6 months ago to make it work.
It didn't. There is an old thread somewhere on this server that states that
Motorola's compression hardware used by Nextel did not support IPSEC
compression (this was during the summer of 2002) but that it would in late
2002. I am trying to find info about whether or not it does now (Nextel has
no clue and noone at Nextel (that I can reach) knows anything about the
technical details of this product Packetstream Gold. Also would accept
alternative cost effective methods (have to approach at least 28.8 speeds).
This is an interesting area that noone seems to have a clue about. Since my
company resells various VPN solutions nationwide, I have a feeling at least
of the potential for this as a product and am a little surprised that noone
has filled this gap.

-----Original Message-----
From: hakan.palm at generic.se [mailto:hakan.palm at generic.se]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:08 PM
To: jim.atherton at netifice.com
Cc: vpn at lists.shmoo.com
Subject: Ang: [VPN] IPSEC or PPTP over Nextel Packetstream Gold


Jim,

are you trying to connect to a  Cisco VPN 3002 Hardware
Client with another client?
If so, the simple answer is as far as I know, no you can not
terminate the VPN tunnel from another client like the Cisco
VPN Client at the VPN 3002. Simply because the Cisco
VPN 3002 is a hardware client and not a concentrator.

For a mobile solution the VPN 3000 Concentrator range i
IMNHO really nice to work with and well suited. You can
use the Cisco VPN Client on a laptop running all but the
archaic versions of Windows, Mac OS X, Linux... There are
3rd party support for older Mac OS, Symbian, Pocket PC
and PalmOS.

HTH

Regards,
/Palm




	jim.atherton at netifice.com
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I need a mobile connectivity solution that supports either (I would like
both and prefer IPSEC) IPSEC (Specifically Cisco VPN client 3.5.x or later)
or PPTP (via Windows 2000 native PPTP). I need to connect to a Cisco VPN
3000 hardware client. I looked into this last year and actually tested with
Nextel and neither worked and the guys at Nextel didn't know why. I ran
across an old mail archive here that said that the compression used by
Nextel Packetstream Gold used a compression technology that precluded use of
IPSEC and that this would change sometime in the last quarter of 2002. Does
anyone have any info about the current or near term status of this product?
My company sells a set of VPN products and services and a useful mobile
wireless VPN solution is needed. Before Richocet crashed we did some stuff
with them. But since then we have had no wireless mobile solution. If there
are any other cost effective mobile wireless solutions out there I would
like to know. Personally, I need connectivity via my laptop and a can accept
speeds of around 28.8 (true speed) but would like higher speeds. Lower, more
expensive solutions are not currently acceptable. I cannot for instance use
some sort of high speed satellite connection due to cost.

Thanks for any info.


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