Does anyone know if its possible to create a pure (read: not L2TP based) IPSec connection in W2K and still use Microsoft's "dialer"? Regards, Patrick A. Bryan, CISSP Abbott Laboratories, Worldwide Network Services Dept 0070 Bldg. AP14B (p) (847) / 935 - 9226 (e) patrick.bryan at abbott.com VPN is sponsored by SecurityFocus.com