@Home bans VPNS

Stephen Morison (TEXT100 AU) smorison at TEXT100.COM.AU
Thu Aug 24 23:33:32 EDT 2000


@home in Australia use "heart beat" packets. Its part of their custom
software that you install and if the packet is not returned within X seconds
they drop the connection. However they do allow VPN's at this time we just
have to manually set routing on each computer which is a real pain in the
neck



Stephen Morison
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 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Michael H. Warfield [mailto:mhw at WITTSEND.COM]
Sent:	Friday, 25 August 2000 7:33 AM
To:	VPN at SECURITYFOCUS.COM
Subject:	Re: @Home bans VPNS

On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 09:36:08AM -0700, Bob Hammond wrote:
> In practice, how can they detect or prevent VPN users?  Doesn't it just
look
> like IP traffic?

	Depends upon the VPN.  IPSec is protocol 50 so that's REAL easy
to spot.  PPTP is also real easy to spot.  If someone is doing SSL or
SSH tunnel based VPN's, that could be extremely difficult, but they're
not nearly as good for general purpose VPN's.

> Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandy Harris [mailto:sandy at STORM.CA]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 6:39 PM
> To: VPN at SECURITYFOCUS.COM
> Subject: [Fwd: @Home bans VPNS]
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: @Home bans VPNS
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:02:11 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Matt Cramer <cramer at unix01.voicenet.com>
> Reply-To: Matt Cramer <cramer at unix01.voicenet.com>,Matt Cramer
> <cramer at unix01.voicenet.com>
> To: dc-stuff at dis.org
>
>
> @Home has banned VPNs or encrypted tunneling protocols from their network
> (!).
>
> http://www.comcastonline.com/subscriber-v3-red.asp

> Read 6.B.viii.  Use of tunneling crypto makes you a "business" customer
> subject to the ~10x higher fees.

	Counter point, filtering based on protocol types or content means
they no longer qualify for common carrier status.  Threaten to complain
to the FCC!

> FOAD, Comcast.

> Matt, ADSL and frame relay user
>
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