[Secgeeks] Re: Gee, huh, anybody know anything about this "iPhone hacking" thing

[Jason]

Yeah, eventually, we're bound to start seeing 3rd party apps showing up.
It IS still a first generation device, after all. I just have to keep
reminding myself of that.

-J

> Oh and i wouldnt be surprised if we started to see third party
> commercial apps start popping up in the next few months.  Im sure
> apple is going to open the platform up to various third parties, im
> just not so sure they will open it up for everyone.
>
> Andre
>
> On 7/24/07, Andre Ludwig <andre.ludwig at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Third party applications will happen, people are just ironing out
>> kinks in the toolchain at this point.
>>
>> Andre
>>
>> On 7/24/07, Jason <jason at ihackstuff.com> wrote:
>> > I went from an 8525 to the iphone, and while I think in the end it
>> comes
>> > down to personal preference, i must say that I think the iphone mail
>> > client handles email so much better than the 8525 ever did - at least
>> from
>> > an IMAP perspective, anyway.
>> >
>> > Typing did take some getting used to on the iphone, no question. I was
>> > very worried about the lack of any tactile feedback before I played
>> with
>> > one, but that has turned out not to be as important to me as I thought
>> it
>> > was, and I can actually type pretty quickly and accurately now that
>> I'm
>> > used to it. The other item I was worried about was the dialing speed
>> on
>> > the keypad, because on my 8525, I actually had to slow myself down,
>> else
>> > it missed numbers - the iphone keypad is wonderfully responsive in
>> that
>> > regard.
>> >
>> > There are still some bugs with the iphone that are annoying to me
>> though;
>> > recurring calendar events don't sync from Outlook - so no birthdays or
>> > repeating meetings show up. Seems more like an iTunes <-> Outlook
>> issue
>> > though - and I hope that gets fixed sooner rather than later. There
>> were a
>> > few forum postings about it on different iphone-related sites, but i
>> > haven't checked in the last week or so.
>> >
>> > The thing is, for me, that what the iphone does, it does very well.
>> It's
>> > hands down the best interface on a hand-held gadget I've ever
>> seen/used.
>> >
>> > I do miss being able to load whatever ROM I want to on my 8525 and
>> playing
>> > around with it on that level. I also miss not being able to install
>> 3rd
>> > party apps on it (like PocketPuTTY, which was convenient to have in a
>> > pinch when i didn't have convenient access to a computer/internet
>> > connection to remotely cycle a spiraling mysql daemon or whatever).
>> > Fortunately though, most of the 3rd party stuff I installed on the
>> 8525
>> > are all included on the iPhone. So this isn't a huge deal for me.
>> >
>> > Finally, the lack of 3G data transfer speeds is only really noticeable
>> to
>> > me when actually browsing websites with lots of images, and maybe when
>> > using Google Maps while mobile as well. Other than that, I haven't
>> really
>> > missed it much. I suppose once the 3G iPhones hit the street and I get
>> to
>> > play with one and compare them, I'll say to myself "WTF were you
>> thinking
>> > when you said that", but for now, the impact doesn't feel so great.
>> >
>> > Wow - a bit more than I expected to type there... :-)
>> >
>> > -J
>> > > Ahhh point well made and in all earnest I have not used either
>> server nor
>> > > client on my phone.  I still contend however  that despite pretyy
>> > > magnification and other tricks a soft keyboard doesn't compare at
>> all to
>> > > the keyboard on my MDA... Which also does music,html web, email etc
>> etc.
>> > >
>> > > In fact I really can't imagine writing this response on an iPhone.
>> Is it
>> > > better than it looks ?
>> > >
>> > > _____________________
>> > > sent from  portable gadget
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: "matthew wollenweber" <mwollenweber at gmail.com>
>> > > To: f1sh at verizon.net
>> > > Cc: "Andre Ludwig" <andre.ludwig at gmail.com>; secgeeks at shmoo.com
>> > > Sent: 7/24/07 12:59 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: [Secgeeks] Re: Gee, huh, anybody know anything about
>> this
>> > > "iPhone hacking" thing
>> > >
>> > > As a resident iphone enthusiast I feel obliged to mention:
>> > >
>> > > The below is only an ssh client, not a server. Plus, I've used putty
>> on
>> > > smartphones (Cingular 8525 and the Blackjack) I wouldn't recommend
>> it.
>> > >
>> > > :)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 7/24/07, f1sh <f1sh at verizon.net> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> as our resident anti-iphone bigot I feel obliged to send this.
>> > >> http://www.pocketputty.net/
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Andre Ludwig wrote:
>> > >> > http://www.tuaw.com/2007/07/23/ssh-on-iphone
>> > >> >
>> > >
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