In search of HOSTAP MAINTAINERS - are you hiding?

G.W. Haywood ged at
Sat Nov 5 07:54:55 EST 2005

Hi there,

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 hostap-request at wrote:

> In search of HOSTAP MAINTAINERS - are you hiding?
> [...]
> This is the third message I've posted with the same log info.

You are well out of order, Mr. Salzenberg - perhaps you posted to the
wrong list?  Your fortuitously uncommon hostname 'tytlal' does not
appear in my list archive before 3 November and the first message that
I can see on this list from your address arrived yesterday.  There was
no log information in it:

> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 11:15:08 -0800
> From: Chip Salzenberg <chip at>
> Subject: Re: interrupt delivery does not seem to work
> To: Miernik <miernik at>
> Cc: hostap at
> Message-ID: <20051103191508.GD6816 at>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 02:40:49PM +0100, Miernik wrote:
> > | wlan0: interrupt delivery does not seem to work
> I'm getting that too.  I have yet to get any reply from this list, or
> from linux-kernel.  I wonder how a driver can get developed and put in
> the kernel tree while no attention is paid to bug reports...

Hostap is one of the most stable and well-supported community projects
that I know of, and people get a lot more and better support here a lot
quicker than were they to be using some product that they'd paid for.

I don't think anyone here will hold a grudge, but all the same an
apology would be in order.  There'll be no more from me on this subject.



Chip Salzenberg put in,

My experience in the Perl community has taught me that tolerating or
even celebrating buttheads who happen to be technically prolific is,
in the end, very costly. It creates a skin-thickness requirement. Some
who might have contributed leave rather than putting up with verbal
abuse. A once-friendly community is be sacrificed on the altar of
technical advancement... ironically, to the eventual detriment of

In a later post, Chip added:

Hans happened to trigger the discussion, and I happen to dislike his
conspiracy theories, so I could see how it would look like I'm picking
on him specifically. But I'm not. I'm just taking this opportunity to
discuss the theory and practice of open source cooperation.

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